Joint union demonstrations ‘not an extra shopping day’

Published date: 29 November 2011 |
Published by: Rebecca Cole
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UNION leaders are urging striking staff to actively support industrial action.

Sarah Taylor, Unison’s Flintshire County branch secretary,believes striking workers should join the planned demonstrations tomorrow in a dispute over pensions rather than just treat it as an extra day off to go Christmas shopping.

The national day of industrial action will bring with it school closures and major disruption to public services. As local authorities and members of the public organise contingency plans to deal with the fallout, teachers and civil servants across the county are preparing for the biggest walk-out in decades.

Mrs Taylor wants to see as many strikers as possible taking part in the 10.30am rally at County Hall and the march from there to the Farmfoods car park on Chester Road to make sure their argument is heard as loudly as possible.

She said: “We want the public to appreciate that we’re not doing this lightly. We’re standing up for what’s right.

“Everybody should come out and express their concerns – we voted in favour of industrial action in the ballot and now we should stand by that decision.

“We need to remember why we’re doing this and make sure the public understand.”

Members of Unite, Unison, GMB and teachers’ unions including NASUWT will be marching together and Mrs Taylor is hopeful about eight different unions will be represented potentially bringing in up to 1,000 members.

“It’s hard to predict how many will turn out but we have 3,000 Unison members across Flintshire so it could be into the thousands.

“The workers are responsible too, not just the union officials, we need to show that we’re united and all behind it together so people know it’s not just a token gesture.

“We have to make a stand against the Government’s unfair demands and hopefully we’ll galvanise support from the public along the way.”

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  1. Posted by: a cahill at 10:31 on 29 November 2011 Report

    1,000 members turning out would adequately reflect the number who bothered to vote in the strike ballot.

  2. Posted by: SPEAKER OF TRUTH at 11:31 on 29 November 2011 Report

    Two friends of mine are both teachers and dont agree with the strike and want to work but the headteacher decided they were shutting away. They never even asked the staff, he just assumed they all wanted to strike and told everyone its closing. This is just another shopping day and a way for the union leaders to justify their 6 figure salarys.

  3. Posted by: Hen ddraig at 14:04 on 29 November 2011 Report

    SOT.... Your two teacher friends can stay at home, do some preparation work (for school not Christmas) and catch up on their marking and records, problem solved! This strike is nothing to do with union leaders salaries, it's a dispute between workers and employers about a proposed reduction in working conditions and the employers refusal to negotiate.

  4. Posted by: SPEAKER OF TRUTH at 14:37 on 29 November 2011 Report

    Except they won’t get paid! And more importantly the children won’t get educated! A small percentage (35%) of union members bothered to vote so the law must now be changed so that a majority of members must vote in favour of the strike. This is 2011 not 1973, union members have to face the real world like the rest of society has had to for years.

  5. Posted by: a cahill at 14:51 on 29 November 2011 Report

    Speaker of Truth has made a very valid the myriad of well heated offices in Whitehall there are probably Mandarins working on a new employment law a requiring a quorum of 50% plus one or for negotiation one union leader has said they will probably sign a deal before the new year

  6. Posted by: Hen ddraig at 16:15 on 29 November 2011 Report

    SOT...... So now you are telling me that your teachers are members fo a union which has voted to strike and they want to ignore a democratic descision. Did the children get educated watching the wedding this year and will they get educated with the jubilee next year. Tell me what % of the electorate voted for this government.

  7. Posted by: Hen ddraig at 16:22 on 29 November 2011 Report

    a cahill..... The "mandarins" actually the first division association will not be working tomorrow. They are on strike. It's strange that MP's pensions have not been mentioned by the government when you consider that the taxpayer contributes 20% of payroll to their platinum plated scheme as well as paying them large salaries and even larger expenses.

  8. Posted by: mfm103.4 at 19:00 on 29 November 2011 Report

    so 1% pay increase for public sector, a freeze on working tax credits, but a 5.2% increase for them on benefits, same old crap, sit on your arse all day and get rewarded. what incentive is there to get up and go to work for National minimum wage - and dont forget a lot of front line public sector workers are on not much more than a few pence above NMW.

  9. Posted by: liberty1 at 19:18 on 29 November 2011 Report

    Conhill, would it not be more gracious not to comment on this subject as you have indicated that you are in receipt of a Civil Service Pension, which in your time was noncontributory, or at least indicate that you have an interest rather than use the action as an opportunity to air your rightwing views

  10. Posted by: liberty1 at 19:22 on 29 November 2011 Report

    SOT, your 2 friends will have been informed that if the place of work is closed they can attend the education office for their area and make themselves available for work therefore not losing any income.

  11. Posted by: liberty1 at 19:33 on 29 November 2011 Report

    SOT, see you are also trotting out the rightwing retoric espoused by the Daily Mail/Express.

  12. Posted by: liberty1 at 20:05 on 29 November 2011 Report

    SOT, you mention % of people who voted regards this action, why should the law be changed? how many people voted in the last election? Did the majority vote Con?, NO, who are the leading lights in this attack on the public sector? the Cons, hoping to finish the job Thatcher started.

  13. Posted by: liberty1 at 21:14 on 29 November 2011 Report

    Conhill/SOT, I suggest you goggle Sue Foster-Agg, a self confessed Con supporter, was praised by Camermoron for not closing her school last June during industrial action, tomorrow she will strike,read what your fellow Tory has to say, "Two recent audits have shown that the pension pot is viable for another 50 yrs and we are not going to be a burden on the taxpayer"

  14. Posted by: liberty1 at 21:43 on 29 November 2011 Report

    Conhill, you have never denied it before and I have mentioned it on many occasions so why wait until now to question my assertions? also many times,when I have mentioned your pension, you have accused me of envy, amongst other things, hoisted by your own petard old chap, or have you been trying to pretend you are something you are not?

  15. Posted by: liberty1 at 21:55 on 29 November 2011 Report

    Conhill, can always see when you are on the backfoot, you start to get naggy like a tired toddler.

  16. Posted by: a cahill at 21:57 on 29 November 2011 Report

    lieby...fact is 30% or less of Trades union members voted for industrial action and comparing the vote to a general election is ridiculous simply because unions are made up of paying members and if you can't win their approval then there is a credibility problem...the Balls mantra of borrowing more is blown away because of the news today that the Govt will have to borrow £100m extra to keep UK PLC out of IMF hands

  17. Posted by: Y FFin at 23:41 on 29 November 2011 Report

    Thresholds in elections work against democracy. you can't let the apathetic have a veto over those who are prepared to think for themselves, come to a decision and go out and vote. The question is why the Government couldn't persuade those who didn't vote to actually vote against the strike.

  18. Posted by: Y FFin at 23:45 on 29 November 2011 Report

    It is fair to compare union elections with local and general elections because as far as I am aware we are all paying members of this country, or at least we are until the Government abolishes taxes. And there's no sign of that, in fact they are increasing!

  19. Posted by: Hen ddraig at 00:09 on 30 November 2011 Report

    SOT a cahill.............. You failed to answer my question about the election, obviously yo don't know. The tories polled 24% of the electorate. So using your logic they have no mandate to govern.

  20. Posted by: a cahill at 13:39 on 30 November 2011 Report

    Hd...YF...we can carry that argument all the way back the present voting system where very few if any of our MPs would have a mandate to represent the majority of constituents...note that Wrexham is represented by an MP who was elected on just over one third of votes cast

  21. Posted by: a cahill at 13:54 on 30 November 2011 Report

    I appreciate the fact that we can have a debate on issues without resorting to personal insults...after 5yrs on this site I have learned a lot and being of the belief that by debate can consensus be reached then its even more important to hear and listen to others views so if your posts are removed its not me doing it nor will I remove posts simply because they don't concur with my views

  22. Posted by: a cahill at 14:26 on 30 November 2011 Report

    Lieby...caught out in a lie that was based on your own envious character as I said I signed the OSA in the UK and made the assumptions about my pension not may have noticed that unlike you I did'nt remove those erroneous comments which are still available on the archive stop removing posts that don't suit you and learn a lesson from the likes of Hd YF RC and others who make sense and allow for debate without resorting to personal insult.

  23. Posted by: liberty1 at 20:26 on 30 November 2011 Report

    Conhill,I have read your posts a number of times and I am amused and bemused at the same time, could you please explain in a coherent manner what you are on about, "removing posts" what posts? where is the "archive site" so I can see these posts?, See your pension is still your Achilles Heel, try to reply in a civilised manner or not at all.

  24. Posted by: a cahill at 14:20 on 01 December 2011 Report

    Oh dear... all that down loading for nothing..when all the time you could have gone to the Leaders archives on this site...heres an idea that could keep you amused over xmas...instead of buying scrapbooks to put IMO's posts into to show your friends why not get them to sit around your computer and click on the archives giving a point for each one who clicks on his for bemused always suspected you had a problem with basic understanding

  25. Posted by: liberty1 at 21:11 on 01 December 2011 Report

    Hold out the hand of friendship and see what happens,Conhill thanks for the advice re Christmas party games, I know your an expert at party games, political parties that is. The 2nd round could be called "name the windbag" but after looking after 2/3 comments guests would notice only your name comes up, oh well back to the drawingboard

  26. Posted by: a cahill at 15:58 on 02 December 2011 Report

    Libby..just make sure they don't accidentally click on your countless and for the most past immature contributions to any article...anyway must to town to spend my imaginary pension in some of those imaginary shops that look like regular shops but don't open or have anything to sell thanks to that Labour Govt that you said hasn;t been in power over the last 20yrs...keep on trucking or in your case down loading

  27. Posted by: liberty1 at 21:08 on 02 December 2011 Report

    Conhill, what is a "regular shop"?, sadly you are a bitter bitter man, you like to hold court and think that all and sundry hold on to your every word bowing down in your presence, what you can't take is someone questioning what you say as you take this as a personnel insult as you cannot believe there maybe someone who will stand up to you.

  28. Posted by: a cahill at 16:02 on 03 December 2011 Report typical of a fool who can't see that what he tries to project onto to others is actually what he is himself...your seem to believe that your comments make any differece to my life but in fact they only serve to show up as the weak minded fool you are.

  29. Posted by: a cahill at 16:13 on 03 December 2011 Report

    Pathetic witout any redeeming features whatsoever...if you really crave frienship try facebook or go on MSN with the kids...suit you to a tee little man

  30. Posted by: liberty1 at 21:30 on 04 December 2011 Report

    Conhill, your a very very naughty boy replying the way you have, it's about time you started acting your age and come to terns with the fact that you are a nobody who thinks they are a somebody, you have already been found out by people and organisations in the past and the people in your area see you as a joke, you are nothing more than a jumped up pip-squeak.

  31. Posted by: a cahill at 13:00 on 05 December 2011 Report

    lib... and you know all this...How ??? it listening to the Lucas inspired control freaks of Caia...or just conjecture on your part...If I'm naughty its because I learned it from you and them...and you and they learned it from Labour HQ in London

  32. Posted by: liberty1 at 20:09 on 05 December 2011 Report

    Conhill, haven't you anything better to do than plagirise my comments, such as colouring in, dot to dot? what about CBeebies?, that would keep you occupied during the day or carry on with the potty training.


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